Oh, how I hate this in Christianity. Really, people sometimes go too far in their analyses and create problems without any need. What useful things do we get from whether Mary was immaculately conceived or the relationship between the divine and human nature of Jesus? Nothing.
I’m not convinced these arguments hold any substance. If you’d like to debate this with someone, I run a WR server and there are a few people willing to debate it. You don’t have to, but extend this offer because I want to give you a more full view of sacred heart, even if I don’t support it.
Also, I am not orthodox, nor do I know what that entails, all I know is that I came out of witchcraft, new age witchcraft when Jesus called on me in 2020 (I quite literally had a vision or a dream? in which Jesus was standing in front of me and two others wearing robes, I couldn't see their faces), I had cried out to God to "please help me" because the demonic warfare was so horrible... I mean horrible.. i was getting attacked in my sleep all the time, I could never rest, and that is when I saw Jesus, now could it have been satan in disguise? maybe? but after that encounter I vowed that I would follow Jesus Christ of Nazareth and then I threw away all my witch items and began to read The Holy Bible, it was life changing, and I began to see the world in a new way. Granted, I am currently, under a lot of spiritual warfare right now, so I have fallen away a bit and feel rather fatigued :( so I am really distant with God but the curiousity sprung up about the "sacred heart" when I was online shopping and I saw a "sacred heart wall decoration piece" but something about it just didn't seem right, anyway, thanks for sharing, sorry for the babbling, God be with us and keep us.
"Finally the circumstances themselves even if we were to give an actual legitimacy to it for the sake of discussion, is bizarre. Mary Alacoque carved the name of Jesus into her chest and signed a contract in blood regarding the sacred heart, how does this not resemble demonic possession more than anything? Where does Jesus tell us to self-mutilate ourselves? For this, it can quickly devolve into offense, so I will stop here. Look into the circumstances of these apparitions for yourselves."
Very interesting, I have tried to read about Mary Alocque and even gifted my mother a book "passion of the christ" or something like that because she's catholic (this is when I first became a born again Christian)... and when I heard the story about how she would go into "trance like states" it creeped me out, if I am honest, it gave me the hibbie jibbies and I couldn't continue reading or hearing about her. Now that I think about it, I will ask my mom to throw the book away all together (it's been years since I gifted her it and I didn't know any better) but I agree. God doesn't tell us to mutilate our bodies and had I know she did that (I would've never gifted that book to my mom). Thanks for explaining this, God Bless.
Oh, how I hate this in Christianity. Really, people sometimes go too far in their analyses and create problems without any need. What useful things do we get from whether Mary was immaculately conceived or the relationship between the divine and human nature of Jesus? Nothing.
I’m not convinced these arguments hold any substance. If you’d like to debate this with someone, I run a WR server and there are a few people willing to debate it. You don’t have to, but extend this offer because I want to give you a more full view of sacred heart, even if I don’t support it.
Also, I am not orthodox, nor do I know what that entails, all I know is that I came out of witchcraft, new age witchcraft when Jesus called on me in 2020 (I quite literally had a vision or a dream? in which Jesus was standing in front of me and two others wearing robes, I couldn't see their faces), I had cried out to God to "please help me" because the demonic warfare was so horrible... I mean horrible.. i was getting attacked in my sleep all the time, I could never rest, and that is when I saw Jesus, now could it have been satan in disguise? maybe? but after that encounter I vowed that I would follow Jesus Christ of Nazareth and then I threw away all my witch items and began to read The Holy Bible, it was life changing, and I began to see the world in a new way. Granted, I am currently, under a lot of spiritual warfare right now, so I have fallen away a bit and feel rather fatigued :( so I am really distant with God but the curiousity sprung up about the "sacred heart" when I was online shopping and I saw a "sacred heart wall decoration piece" but something about it just didn't seem right, anyway, thanks for sharing, sorry for the babbling, God be with us and keep us.
"Finally the circumstances themselves even if we were to give an actual legitimacy to it for the sake of discussion, is bizarre. Mary Alacoque carved the name of Jesus into her chest and signed a contract in blood regarding the sacred heart, how does this not resemble demonic possession more than anything? Where does Jesus tell us to self-mutilate ourselves? For this, it can quickly devolve into offense, so I will stop here. Look into the circumstances of these apparitions for yourselves."
Very interesting, I have tried to read about Mary Alocque and even gifted my mother a book "passion of the christ" or something like that because she's catholic (this is when I first became a born again Christian)... and when I heard the story about how she would go into "trance like states" it creeped me out, if I am honest, it gave me the hibbie jibbies and I couldn't continue reading or hearing about her. Now that I think about it, I will ask my mom to throw the book away all together (it's been years since I gifted her it and I didn't know any better) but I agree. God doesn't tell us to mutilate our bodies and had I know she did that (I would've never gifted that book to my mom). Thanks for explaining this, God Bless.